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Kris
Posts: 4788 Joined: 07 Nov 2004		Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:12 pm
		How exactly do you deal with frenemies at the workplace? Do you have any? And if not, I suppose you could just consider yourself lucky.

DJ Jake
Posts: 1166 Joined: 19 Apr 2009		Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:55 pm
		What constitutes a frenemy anyway? I actually get along well with everyone at work... save one. And details shan't be posted until it is no longer a pending issue.
		Why didn't I get invited seahorse sea-Hell?

Kris
Posts: 4788 Joined: 07 Nov 2004		Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:01 pm
		On no problem, that's understood. As for what constitutes a frenemy, a frenemy is a person that always thinks that he or she knows better, while trying to dictate how your live should/could/would be. He or she will treat you like shit. Sometimes the treatment is subtle, and sometimes it's obvious, but at the same time, they're fastidious and insidious to no end. They're not satisfied until you reach whatever they'd consider to be success. What's even worse is that some of them do that so they could borrow money and get food from you too. So I suppose you could also put moochers under the "frenemy umbrella" as well. (Along with anybody else the "befriends" you as a mean for "personal/material" gain.) For instance, let's say somebody tries to be your friend just to get a promotion, and once that promotion is obtained, he or she just abandons you and acts as if he or she doesn't know you. (Or probably treats you as if you were not as significant as he/she thinks he/she is.) From what I've noticed, they also love the sound of their own voices too. So as for the  gist of it, it's somebody that pretends to be after your best interests, masquerading as a "friend" that could give a shit less about you in the long run if you don't conform to their standards of living. In my opinion, that's what makes them enemies in the first place.

House of Bizkits
Posts: 9936 Joined: 26 Oct 2003		Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:05 pm
		...they're all assholes. Up until last week I was doing great of Facebook, now that I quit everyone from that hellhole wants to be my friend on Facebook and they won't shut the hell up.
		LESBIANS

Kris
Posts: 4788 Joined: 07 Nov 2004		Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:55 am
		I don't get it either. I've seen people that haven't treated me so well IRL actually want to befriend me on facebook. What? They have got to be kidding me. Does the douchebaggery/dumbfuckery all of a sudden disappear just because it's facebook? I don't fucking think so. I'd be happy to quaff down a few tall orders of "I don't give a shit." Thank you very much. This can be also filed under, "More Reasons to NOT Add Any Co-Workers/Bosses" on facebook.

Samsara the 13th
Posts: 71 Joined: 02 Oct 2009		Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:36 pm
		When I hear the word "frenemy" I think of a person who is friendly to your face and then talks mad shit about you behind your back.  Before I really got my Act together I worked at this circuit board factory in Calumet, MI. Even though the pay was crappy I enjoyed the job a lot because of the benefits and all the overtime I was able to work. The only thing I hated about my job was my coworker Ashley. She is a few years younger than me and I actually helped train her into the job. On the surface we were friendly to eachother and at first I had a great respect for her as a human being; she was like the little sister I never had. We would often have times at work when we were all caught up  and sit around and bullshit about everything from current events down to problems we were having about our significant others. She was always nice to my face. However as the months went by I started to hear through the grapevine that she had betrayed my confidence and started to gossip about me behind my back to other people at work.( It was embarassing and my job performance may have suffered as a result. )This was no good as I thought we had an understanding. I confronted her about this and she flat out denied it to my face even though I knew this to not be true. After that she must have gotten mad at me and she started to make stuff about me that wasn't even remotely true. I suspect (I cannot prove it) that she purposely started to mess up job orders and electronically sign my name onto the fucked up order in an attempt to get me fired. To me this is the definition of a frenemy. Lucky for me I was fortunate enough to go back to school and get a real job with a future. I hadn't thought about this in years. Good topic of discussion man. Thank you.
		I am the antithesis of photosynthesis.

Snipa Rifle
Posts: 307 Joined: 22 May 2004		Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:12 pm
		Don't fuck with anyone at the workplace. THat's how you get caught up.
		Death to the pedo, death to the pedo. Fuck Poser X- ugly, gay, he-whore...

Samsara the 13th
Posts: 71 Joined: 02 Oct 2009		Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:05 pm
		Snipa Rifle wrote: Don't fuck with anyone at the workplace. THat's how you get caught up. I'm afraid I do not follow your meaning exactly. What 'chu mean by this, bro?
		I am the antithesis of photosynthesis.

Snipa Rifle
Posts: 307 Joined: 22 May 2004		Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:23 pm
		Samsara the 13th wrote: Snipa Rifle wrote: Don't fuck with anyone at the workplace. THat's how you get caught up. I'm afraid I do not follow your meaning exactly. What 'chu mean by this, bro? I have no experience, but seriously. You're at the job to make money, not to socialize. Don't try to befriend anyone. Keep your co-worker's at sword's length because they're coiled like snakes and ready to strike at any given time. Also, don't date anyone from your job as that's a good way to get caught up in bullshit.
		Death to the pedo, death to the pedo. Fuck Poser X- ugly, gay, he-whore...

Samsara the 13th
Posts: 71 Joined: 02 Oct 2009		Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:02 pm
		Snipa Rifle wrote: Samsara the 13th wrote: Snipa Rifle wrote: Don't fuck with anyone at the workplace. THat's how you get caught up. I'm afraid I do not follow your meaning exactly. What 'chu mean by this, bro? I have no experience, but seriously. You're at the job to make money, not to socialize. Don't try to befriend anyone. Keep your co-worker's at sword's length because they're coiled like snakes and ready to strike at any given time. Also, don't date anyone from your job as that's a good way to get caught up in bullshit. I now understand what you were driving at. What you said is good advice. That job I used to work at had a lot of down time and it seemed really hard not to fraternize with others. But the past is the past and the past is meant to teach us a lesson on not repeating our mistakes. In my non-internet  and (I guess one could say<?>) real life I do tend to be too open with strangers at times. It is a character flaw that is being revised with each waking breath. What you say about keeping most people at "sword's length" strikes a chord in me so profound that its resonance shall be eternal. Good advice man. To anyone who might be a future frenemy in training just remember that you don't have to lie to kick it.
		I am the antithesis of photosynthesis.

Kris
Posts: 4788 Joined: 07 Nov 2004		Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:51 am
		Samsara the 13th wrote: When I hear the word "frenemy" I think of a person who is friendly to your face and then talks mad shit about you behind your back.  Before I really got my Act together I worked at this circuit board factory in Calumet, MI. Even though the pay was crappy I enjoyed the job a lot because of the benefits and all the overtime I was able to work. The only thing I hated about my job was my coworker Ashley. She is a few years younger than me and I actually helped train her into the job. On the surface we were friendly to eachother and at first I had a great respect for her as a human being; she was like the little sister I never had. We would often have times at work when we were all caught up  and sit around and bullshit about everything from current events down to problems we were having about our significant others. She was always nice to my face. However as the months went by I started to hear through the grapevine that she had betrayed my confidence and started to gossip about me behind my back to other people at work.( It was embarassing and my job performance may have suffered as a result. )This was no good as I thought we had an understanding. I confronted her about this and she flat out denied it to my face even though I knew this to not be true. After that she must have gotten mad at me and she started to make stuff about me that wasn't even remotely true. I suspect (I cannot prove it) that she purposely started to mess up job orders and electronically sign my name onto the fucked up order in an attempt to get me fired. To me this is the definition of a frenemy. Lucky for me I was fortunate enough to go back to school and get a real job with a future. I hadn't thought about this in years. Good topic of discussion man. Thank you. You're welcome, and I'm definitely sorry to read that. I suppose that I have an idea as to what that might've been like because I've dealt with similar experiences myself. A huge part of it in my opinion is the fact that there are a lot of people out there that choose to say things that they don't mean. So while I think it's great to make friends, the circumstances that you've already mentioned are some of the several reasons as to why I'm not so quick and eager to pursue them. I sincerely believe that quality will always be better than quantity as far as friendships go. I always have, and most likely always will. And as for the word, I get its concept, but I still think that they're all enemies regardless. Snipa Rifle wrote: I have no experience, but seriously. You're at the job to make money, not to socialize. Don't try to befriend anyone. Keep your co-worker's at sword's length because they're coiled like snakes and ready to strike at any given time. Also, don't date anyone from your job as that's a good way to get caught up in bullshit. I concur. Most of the people that wanted to be my friends were no more than acquaintances full of hypocrisy and deceit. To be frank, I don't have any trust or respect for anybody that instigates and talks shit, especially in the workplace. Such types would often use boredom and stress as an excuse for their behavior. Almost every single joke and criticism was unprecedented. What's up with people saying things that are uncalled for? I also noticed that some of the co-workers had to audacity to say the following. Here's a list of what they said. 1. If you don't drink or smoke. You don't have a life. 2. You're wasting your 20s away if you don't use that time to get high and drunk. 3. You're wasting your 20s away if you don't go to bars, night clubs, and strip clubs. 4. If you're in your 20s, you must not only pursue those activies mentioned in number 3, but you must at the very least part from 11:00 PM - 1:00 AM or 5:00 AM. 5. Infidelity is okay as long as you don't get caught. Get with the times. Morality doesn't have any effect on our productivity and well-being. 6. You must lose your virginity at the age of 18 if you didn't lose it when you were 17 and younger. 7. Nobody in there 20s should even think about having a serious relationship of any kind. Serious relationships should be left for the time you become middle-aged. You must a backstabber or else not have a life like the rest of us players. Only swingers are the true dark side. 8. If you didn't graduate from college and have your bachelor's degree by the time you're 22, you don't have a life. You're a moron and you don't have much to live for anyway. 9. What the fuck kind of person are you if you don't have a driver's license by the time you're 18? You don't drive? Are you stupid? What if... *Insert more bitching here.* 10. It's good to combine your professional and personal life because it'll make it easier for you to find a new job just in case you lose the one you currently have. You might get several promotions too. (Bull. Fucking. Shit. It's called favoritism and hypocrisy.) 11. Don't you have a sense of humor? (Often translating to: It's okay if we ridicule, condemn, and mock you, either to your face and/or behind your back, but there will be hell to pay if you ever fuck back. Only we have the right to instigate. Not you. We deserve to dish out unsolicited advice and unprecedented remarks, and you deserve to take them. How dare you castigate us. We still have a right to have reprehensible attitudes and motives. Atrocities? We think not. ~Instigators in General) 12. If you don't embrace out intrusive diatribe, you are a loner. Loners are hermits, and hermits are losers. Losers don't have lives. Need we say more? I'm sure I could come up with more ideas, but those are my "top twelve" reasons to keep to myself as of now. I've always had the displeasure and misfortune of discussing such degenerate topics with these types if you will. I could also do without hypocrisy and favoritism in the workplace, or any other place altogether.

Samsara the 13th
Posts: 71 Joined: 02 Oct 2009		Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:25 pm
		Kris wrote: Samsara the 13th wrote: When I hear the word "frenemy" I think of a person who is friendly to your face and then talks mad shit about you behind your back.  Before I really got my Act together I worked at this circuit board factory in Calumet, MI. Even though the pay was crappy I enjoyed the job a lot because of the benefits and all the overtime I was able to work. The only thing I hated about my job was my coworker Ashley. She is a few years younger than me and I actually helped train her into the job. On the surface we were friendly to eachother and at first I had a great respect for her as a human being; she was like the little sister I never had. We would often have times at work when we were all caught up  and sit around and bullshit about everything from current events down to problems we were having about our significant others. She was always nice to my face. However as the months went by I started to hear through the grapevine that she had betrayed my confidence and started to gossip about me behind my back to other people at work.( It was embarassing and my job performance may have suffered as a result. )This was no good as I thought we had an understanding. I confronted her about this and she flat out denied it to my face even though I knew this to not be true. After that she must have gotten mad at me and she started to make stuff about me that wasn't even remotely true. I suspect (I cannot prove it) that she purposely started to mess up job orders and electronically sign my name onto the fucked up order in an attempt to get me fired. To me this is the definition of a frenemy. Lucky for me I was fortunate enough to go back to school and get a real job with a future. I hadn't thought about this in years. Good topic of discussion man. Thank you. You're welcome, and I'm definitely sorry to read that. I suppose that I have an idea as to what that might've been like because I've dealt with similar experiences myself. A huge part of it in my opinion is the fact that there are a lot of people out there that choose to say things that they don't mean. So while I think it's great to make friends, the circumstances that you've already mentioned are some of the several reasons as to why I'm not so quick and eager to pursue them. I sincerely believe that quality will always be better than quantity as far as friendships go. I always have, and most likely always will. And as for the word, I get its concept, but I still think that they're all enemies regardless. Snipa Rifle wrote: I have no experience, but seriously. You're at the job to make money, not to socialize. Don't try to befriend anyone. Keep your co-worker's at sword's length because they're coiled like snakes and ready to strike at any given time. Also, don't date anyone from your job as that's a good way to get caught up in bullshit. I concur. Most of the people that wanted to be my friends were no more than acquaintances full of hypocrisy and deceit. To be frank, I don't have any trust or respect for anybody that instigates and talks shit, especially in the workplace. Such types would often use boredom and stress as an excuse for their behavior. Almost every single joke and criticism was unprecedented. What's up with people saying things that are uncalled for? I also noticed that some of the co-workers had to audacity to say the following. Here's a list of what they said. 1. If you don't drink or smoke. You don't have a life. 2. You're wasting your 20s away if you don't use that time to get high and drunk. 3. You're wasting your 20s away if you don't go to bars, night clubs, and strip clubs. 4. If you're in your 20s, you must not only pursue those activies mentioned in number 3, but you must at the very least part from 11:00 PM - 1:00 AM or 5:00 AM. 5. Infidelity is okay as long as you don't get caught. Get with the times. Morality doesn't have any effect on our productivity and well-being. 6. You must lose your virginity at the age of 18 if you didn't lose it when you were 17 and younger. 7. Nobody in there 20s should even think about having a serious relationship of any kind. Serious relationships should be left for the time you become middle-aged. You must a backstabber or else not have a life like the rest of us players. Only swingers are the true dark side. 8. If you didn't graduate from college and have your bachelor's degree by the time you're 22, you don't have a life. You're a moron and you don't have much to live for anyway. 9. What the fuck kind of person are you if you don't have a driver's license by the time you're 18? You don't drive? Are you stupid? What if... *Insert more bitching here.* 10. It's good to combine your professional and personal life because it'll make it easier for you to find a new job just in case you lose the one you currently have. You might get several promotions too. (Bull. Fucking. Shit. It's called favoritism and hypocrisy.) 11. Don't you have a sense of humor? (Often translating to: It's okay if we ridicule, condemn, and mock you, either to your face and/or behind your back, but there will be hell to pay if you ever fuck back. Only we have the right to instigate. Not you. We deserve to dish out unsolicited advice and unprecedented remarks, and you deserve to take them. How dare you castigate us. We still have a right to have reprehensible attitudes and motives. Atrocities? We think not. ~Instigators in General) 12. If you don't embrace out intrusive diatribe, you are a loner. Loners are hermits, and hermits are losers. Losers don't have lives. Need we say more? I'm sure I could come up with more ideas, but those are my "top twelve" reasons to keep to myself as of now. I've always had the displeasure and misfortune of discussing such degenerate topics with these types if you will. I could also do without hypocrisy and favoritism in the workplace, or any other place altogether. Among other things (at the risk of sounding like an emotional whino) I must say that you have had some of the most moving words of wisdom I have ever encountered on this thing call the internet. I plan on a looking at the above said post in further detail when I have more time but I'm having an old friend for dinner now. Don't worry, she's not on the menu. -respect
		I am the antithesis of photosynthesis.

Kris
Posts: 4788 Joined: 07 Nov 2004		Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:01 pm
		By all means, please take your time. When it comes to such topics and situations, it's not as if I thought about such moments like this overnight. This is just from years of my personal experiences with human interaction. Of course I can only speak for myself, but that's just how I see it. I'll keep a more vigilant eye out for such types in the next workplace I ever set foot in. I don't think that as a paranoid approach at all. I just consider it to be a rather reasonable, responsible, and cautious approach to others, because there will always been a fine line between friendships and acquaintances. I still couldn't agree any more with Snipa Rifle however. It's that plain and simple to me. And yes, albeit flattered, I wouldn't want to sell the other members of this forum short too. Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it nonetheless.

Howler Wolf
Posts: 66 Joined: 02 Oct 2003		Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:29 pm
		Our supervisor is a hypocrite in so many ways. I think she buys dope from one of my co-workers.
		Too much to live for...

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